三天过去了,我踏着年轻人的肩膀上,偷偷地偷董版主的拳头,慢慢地摸索着他的手艺。我做了董版主为我提出的问题的仿真图。我记得他做出仿真图以后,我曾经提出要在各条出线路加负荷,以便更真实的反映实际情况,我斗胆的在他基础上进行修改,仿真后,各线路的的电流就完全不如董版主在四条空载线路,线路1号末端A相接地暂态过程那么明显。这是因为所有都是空载的,所以可比较。今线路有负荷,各线路上就有大于电容电流的数值,那么使故障线路的电流特征就没有了。这也是我最初的本意,即我是要千方百计的求得穿过电缆的另序CT的仿真模型。我又在想,如果ATPDraw能够在开关上三个电流曲线能相加,不是可以得到该条出线的另序电流了吗?
本帖最后由 shuzhiyun 于 2009-8-31 19:03 编辑
我忘记了上传仿真模型图和ATP运行文件。现在补上。
另外,我要请教版主,我运行董版主的提供的10kV_reactor.acp文件后,F5打开OUT,发现,10KV主变开关的电流,不等于各路出线线路开关的电流之和?
Output for steady-state phasor switch currents.
Node-K Node-M I-real I-imag I-magn Degrees Power Reactive
BUS1A S2A 2.28884473E-03 8.09380513E-03 8.41121226E-03 74.2096 1.30830002E-05 -8.46708672E-02
BUS1B S2B 5.11732965E+00 -2.94592543E+00 5.90470485E+00 -29.9280 4.33950011E+00 -4.17228685E+04
BUS1C S2C 7.75834234E-04 -5.89865155E+00 5.89865160E+00 -89.9925 4.32473403E+00 -4.16373656E+04
B0A BUS1A 2.87584534E+00 -4.96698700E+00 5.73946393E+00 -59.9295 4.14566967E+01 4.02417372E+01
B0B BUS1B -3.97950205E+00 1.01534518E+00 4.10698946E+00 165.6867 7.80836956E+03 2.79499212E+04
B0C BUS1C 1.10365671E+00 3.95164181E+00 4.10286865E+00 74.3954 -7.79705105E+03 2.78919905E+04
BUS1A S3A 2.28884473E-03 8.09380513E-03 8.41121226E-03 74.2096 1.30830002E-05 -8.46708672E-02
BUS1B S3B 5.11732965E+00 -2.94592543E+00 5.90470485E+00 -29.9280 4.33950011E+00 -4.17228685E+04
BUS1C S3C 7.75834236E-04 -5.89865155E+00 5.89865160E+00 -89.9925 4.32473402E+00 -4.16373656E+04
BUS1A S1A 1.77352556E+00 -3.04094676E+00 3.52033381E+00 -59.7486 2.55055026E+01 2.46021079E+01
BUS1B S1B 5.11733595E+00 -2.94595129E+00 5.90472321E+00 -29.9282 4.47565248E+00 -4.17229982E+04
BUS1C S1C 7.82133684E-04 -5.89867741E+00 5.89867746E+00 -89.9924 4.28031048E+00 -4.16375482E+04
BUS1A S4A 2.28884474E-03 8.09380512E-03 8.41121226E-03 74.2096 1.30830741E-05 -8.46708672E-02
BUS1B S4B 5.11732965E+00 -2.94592543E+00 5.90470485E+00 -29.9280 4.33950021E+00 -4.17228685E+04
BUS1C S4C 7.75834245E-04 -5.89865155E+00 5.89865160E+00 -89.9925 4.32473396E+00 -4.16373656E+04
X0001A 1.77168277E+00 -3.04828037E+00 3.52574432E+00 -59.8345 0.00000000E+00 0.00000000E+00
EARTH XX0008 Open Open Open Open Open Open
XX0016 -2.22528266E+01 3.83950250E+01 4.43775420E+01 120.0955
37003我忘记了上传仿真模型图和ATP运行文件。现在补上。
另外,我要请教版主,我运行董版主的提供的10kV_reactor.acp文件后,F5打开OUT,发现,10KV主变开关的电流,不等于各路出线线路开关的电流之和?
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shuzhiyun 发表于 2009-8-31 12:46 https://tech.cepsc.com/images/common/back.gif
舒老师观察的很细致,各处开关的电流之和的确小于总开关的电流,那是因为我没有在接地变压器处添加开关,缺少的那部分电流正是变压器的励磁和损耗电流,我对接地变压器不熟悉,参数可能设置的不太合理,期待着舒老师把这个模型继续完善!
我老头是真是昏了头,我把文件是传错了。
董版主:你好。“接地变压器不熟悉,参数可能设置的不太合理,期待着舒老师把这个模型继续完善!”,我是想偷着学习,可惜,我把你的接地变压器模型打开,我可以说基本看不懂。不个,我发现,这个Z型变压器可能有问题,接线组别是Z/D1。但是,它的二次侧380V所用电电压是不会受外面10KV线路单相接地而变得不对称。我将继续努力学习和请教。
atpdraw里的Z型变压器的模型我并没有深入了解, 参数可能不太合理, 希望舒老师可以深入的研究, 给大家讲解一下.
我把董版主提供的仿真图及仿真运行数据文件中,暂时去掉Z型变压器以下部分,进行了二个仿真运算,都是稳态计算。第一个,结果表明:四条空载电流之和等于10KV总开关电流。第二个,线路出线1末端 A相接地后,10KV总开关电流与四条线路的电流关系,都符合电工原理。基本可以说明Z型变压器模拟可能是有问题。我现在在阅读ATODraw5.5关于变压器模型的填卡说明书,因为全部是英文,我确实学习很困难很困难。我笨办法,打印出来,请教单位里能人翻译。因为我存在电脑是文本格式,不能上传,我只好压缩后上传。
舒老师,有z型变压器也是符合电工原理阿,它也需要励磁电流和损耗,必然分走一部分电流,可能参数设置的不合理,使励磁电流偏大了
你说得对,但是一个空载接地变压器他不可能有15A的电流?我看了F4、F5,你的Z型变压器设置好像是有问题,我已经想了二天了,我在比较我过去的马老师软件做的接地变压器参数,好像不一样,我也不知什么原因。
根据你的仿真图运行后:
这是接地变压器的参数(F4得到)
TRANSFORMER X0006A 1.E11 0
1. 1.28
9999
1Bus1A T0002B -.0084.103219.1609
2earth T0002A -.0014.002791.5072
3X0015A .00061 .0174 .4
TRANSFORMER X0006A X0006B
1Bus1B T0002C
2earth T0002B
3X0015B
TRANSFORMER X0006A X0006C
1Bus1C T0002A
2earth T0002C
3X0015C
这是从F5得到
BUS1A 19.37396623860820.132857345722 1.09545324884862.2369113410743 15.951154870877-.0210158438609
-5.475525279684 -15.7815036 -1.950321647168 -60.6780252 15.893641894943 0.2582197
X0006A 19.18187534869419.983994279368 -1.0954532488492.2369113410743 -15.97217071474
-5.604969711334 -16.2884335 1.9503216471685 119.3219748 -15.63542222293
X0006A 19.18187534869419.983994279368 .26067201322E-7.26325254648E-7 .2397042737E-6.34650951613E-4
-5.604969711334 -16.2884335 .36769617178E-8 8.0290003 -.1083184476E-6 0.0000000
T0002B -2587.5382568932614.3274418337 -.2606720132E-7.26325254648E-7 .34411247339E-4
-373.3011414897 -171.7906468 -.3676961718E-8 -171.9709997 .1083184476E-6
X0006A 19.18187534869419.983994279368 .914385363976486.5465537582946 26.936588068576.2951458522E-13
-5.604969711334 -16.2884335 -6.482381160992 -81.9709997 59.609562561651 8616.9847375
T0002B -2587.5382568932614.3274418337 -.91438536397656.5465537582946 -26.93658806858
-373.3011414897 -171.7906468 6.4823811609922 98.0290003 8557.3751749833
EARTH -3455.5522489073993.9787825593 -1.10054707257427.568249991627 29485.709491902-1069.739088394
-2002.754395977 -149.9044578 -27.54627386312 -92.2879023 -46491.73155457 5874.6766153
T0002A -3884.502106554398.4659276284 1.100547072574427.568249991627 -30555.4485803
-2063.285220398 -152.0246270 27.546273863118 87.7120977 52366.408169849
X0006A 19.18187534869419.983994279368 .181067858810174.5356751397227 -10.964417593521069.2070825095
-5.604969711334 -16.2884335 4.5320595101569 87.7120977 -43.97414023051 -5873.6164036
T0002B -2587.5382568932614.3274418337 -.18106785881024.5356751397227 1080.171500103
-373.3011414897 -171.7906468 -4.532059510157 -92.2879023 -5829.642263334
X0015A 113.81939033249114.94615004001 .136168854E-12.9640132323E-12 .8829029446E-13.8829029446E-13
16.055023929019 8.0290003 -.954347712E-12 -81.8796960 .5540473448E-10 0.0000000
TERRA 0.0 0.0 -.136168854E-12.9640132323E-12 0.0
0.0 0.0 .954347712E-12 98.1203040 0.0
X0006A 19.18187534869419.983994279368 -.105852827E-13.6725729738E-13 -.287661287E-12-.158541168E-11
-5.604969711334 -16.2884335 .6641909245E-13 99.0551386 -.607356282E-12 0.0000000
T0002B -2587.5382568932614.3274418337 .1058528265E-13.6725729738E-13 -.12977504E-11
-373.3011414897 -171.7906468 -.664190924E-13 -80.9448614 -.879067204E-10
BUS1B -7049.38200000514132.075963629 -24.448826942827.596401987988 7790.8754092802-3.198557891267
-12248.33802848 -119.9220554 12.799072771245 152.3677368 194841.52500274 39.3003762
X0006B -7048.26637785114129.239279103 24.44882694280127.596401987988 -7794.073967171
-12245.70715284 -119.9234562 -12.79907277124 -27.6322632 -194802.2246266
X0006B -7048.26637785114129.239279103 -.5275844998E-7.11221514885E-6 .79233101847E-3.62961198158E-3
-12245.70715284 -119.9234562 -.9903931334E-7 -118.0443218 -.2599546702E-4 0.0000000
T0002C -1772.4213799632936.9016892679 .52758449979E-7.11221514885E-6 -.1627190369E-3
-2341.775818535 -127.1210097 .99039313343E-7 61.9556782 .25995467021E-4
X0006B -7048.26637785114129.239279103 -24.6290566858827.905618170955 6464.5423037127 -.24407143E-11
-12245.70715284 -119.9234562 13.119950162508 151.9556782 197036.55961769 156571.6548415
T0002C -1772.4213799632936.9016892679 24.62905668588427.905618170955 -6464.542303713
-2341.775818535 -127.1210097 -13.11995016251 -28.0443218 -40464.9047762
EARTH -3455.5522489073993.9787825593 -1.0954532487132.2369113408456 -60.30965744993-1113.544603746
-2002.754395977 -149.9044578 1.9503216469824 119.3219748 4466.681081385 1738.9481699
T0002B -2587.5382568932614.3274418337 1.09545324871292.2369113408456 -1053.234946296
-373.3011414897 -171.7906468 -1.950321646982 -60.6780252 -2727.732911504
X0006B -7048.26637785114129.239279103 .18022979585486.36802855323292 1329.53087123051113.5411011178
-12245.70715284 -119.9234562 -.3208772922487 -60.6780252 -2234.334965313 -1738.9411899
T0002C -1772.4213799632936.9016892679 -.1802297958549.36802855323292 -215.9897701127
-2341.775818535 -127.1210097 .32087729224865 119.3219748 495.39377541925
X0015B -230.3636104701489.97434248114 -.214583906E-11.2409133005E-11 .1037193872E-10.1037193872E-10
-432.4435954677 -118.0443218 .1095123991E-11 152.9626118 .59011553793E-9 0.0000000
TERRA 0.0 0.0 .2145839062E-11.2409133005E-11 0.0
0.0 0.0 -.109512399E-11 -27.0373882 0.0
X0006B -7048.26637785114129.239279103 .190514271E-12.2123844241E-12 -.966493389E-10-.377240502E-10
-12245.70715284 -119.9234562 -.938693567E-13 -26.2301878 -.1497299101E-8 0.0000000
T0002C -1772.4213799632936.9016892679 -.190514271E-12.2123844241E-12 .5892528873E-10
-2341.775818535 -127.1210097 .9386935673E-13 153.7698122 .30625888388E-9
BUS1C -14117.5873805214117.587771649 1.10054707258727.568249991669 -7814.305566388-3.192035311933
-3.323196073943 -179.9865129 27.546273863159 87.7120977 194441.63546857 39.2202339
X0006C -14114.73508514114.735448963 -1.10054707258727.568249991669 7811.1135310757
-3.205394836854 -179.9869884 -27.54627386316 -92.2879023 -194402.4152347
X0006C -14114.73508514114.735448963 -.1023023298E-6.10435592733E-6 .7219521249E-3.54450797841E-3
-3.205394836854 -179.9869884 .20600798256E-7 168.6145154 .14555136464E-3 0.0000000
T0002A -3884.502106554398.4659276284 .10230232978E-6.10435592733E-6 -.1774441465E-3
-2063.285220398 -152.0246270 -.2060079826E-7 -11.3854846 -.1455513646E-3
X0006C -14114.73508514114.735448963 5.122998240656525.951190117023 -36195.65493126-.351718654E-12
-3.205394836854 -179.9869884 25.440502304713 78.6145154 179534.7646141 135408.0254940
T0002A -3884.502106554398.4659276284 -5.12299824065725.951190117023 36195.654931256
-2063.285220398 -152.0246270 -25.44050230471 -101.3854846 -44126.73912014
EARTH -3455.5522489073993.9787825593 24.44882694284627.596401988085 -29425.39983411-22744.86759769
-2002.754395977 -149.9044578 -12.79907277137 -27.6322632 -46596.43016765 -6626.9191927
T0002C -1772.4213799632936.9016892679 -24.4488269428527.596401988085 6680.5322364245
-2341.775818535 -127.1210097 12.799072771367 152.3677368 39969.510974988
X0006C -14114.73508514114.735448963 -4.0224510657644.5403068559141 28384.54067820622744.334504714
-3.205394836854 -179.9869884 2.1057715377964 152.3677368 14867.650474701 6627.9815706
T0002A -3884.502106554398.4659276284 4.02245106576414.5403068559141 -5640.206173493
-2063.285220398 -152.0246270 -2.105771537796 -27.6322632 -8239.668904125
X0015C -446.6911756901455.65796952766 .6044054146E-12.1445185085E-11 -.759507111E-10-.759507111E-10
89.950979731756 168.6145154 .1312727704E-11 65.2777357 .3203753704E-9 0.0000000
TERRA 0.0 0.0 -.604405415E-12.1445185085E-11 0.0
atpdraw里这个z型变压器调用的也是饱和变压器模型,关于它的连线方式,我也比较糊涂
