设为首页收藏本站|繁體中文 快速切换版块

 找回密码
 立即加入
搜索
楼主: bcpan118

研究特高压直流输电的电压稳定需要什么软件啊?

 火.. [复制链接]

该用户从未签到

尚未签到

发表于 2009-11-16 11:53:02 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 yizhangsjtu 于 2009-11-16 12:00 编辑
' ]! R4 A/ z& L- n" k* }7 r; h2 X4 p3 F8 p# H, N
回复 1# bcpan118
, T3 s4 M, u: Y) v( E/ B6 aSorry I cannot write Chinese in this computer. But I would like to comment on the question you raised, as this topic might confuse many people.
8 N4 G+ m" R. i* ?( w( t) d$ V; s) J- B( y- C" d8 p
The question itself on UHVDC is kind of new, but the property of voltage stability of HVDC won't have any change if it is UHV. Choosing such topic seems attract eyeball but in fact causes extra confuse for students. Atucally HVDC AC has more special problem. While in UHVDC, the hard things are main on insulation and equipment. There is no speical on anything about voltage stability.; X% c, o8 D6 u7 }# [

: K3 M: A1 L$ `. wLet me be clear here. 8 @% E" I4 ^: d1 n; A

+ N3 P: L. r; [7 g6 C2 w: M( [( I1.  The voltage stabilty (often means steady state ability) of HVDC system should be understood in 2 different aspects. - a7 o. i- K+ K. S/ W- U
(1) One is the power stability. The HVDC has no angle stabilty problem. The so call stability problem of HVDC is a control stability, in which the maximum available power (MAP) transfer is started.1 Q, {/ W: _. p/ j3 i/ S/ D# G

/ J- W# h' m& M4 s6 u2 _9 |. g(2) The other is seen from AC side. DC is a nonlinear load from AC side, which has its special impact on PV curve of AC side.( C( ^. Z4 ?* E! h

4 _5 d& _: N7 `7 t$ B( Y* R% ~Those two problems are different, and they have different Pmax and Qmax. Reach either of them will lead to instability.5 q' Y$ |! d6 M- j5 v, H

# S8 V  U+ x5 y/ ?* T2. Transient voltage stability
: `1 u2 M3 I# m0 c# d" nThere is concern from AC side of convert bus transient voltage. Those concerns include over voltage of DC, AC fault, DC block, and AC/DC voltage recovery during and after fault. Different reactive support methods are studied based on EMT type simulation. The reason to use EMT type simulation is the mechanism of the problem is not clear, so there is no good simplified model available for use. Therefore, choosing detail model is a MUST for the current situation.
# N/ z4 `1 Z( b, z3 N# _1 O: P
2 ]% k. |5 ]7 [As far as I know, there is no transient voltage stability thing in DC side.
. \1 u! ^" |5 G* A2 i# z# j: w; _9 M0 s3 q. G# V& s
I would like to comment here that the most important thing here is understanding the problem rather than choosing a software and run. As you may understand, the DC is kind of special thing so it is not very accurate modeled in most of the software. That is why people like to choose PSCAD, since its model is detail so the users  don't need many knowledge before use it. For those simple model program, as good as TSAT or VSAT, you should understand DC first then you can wisely use it get the result you expect. It is very easy to go into "garbage in and garbage out" here. Very careful prepare work is desired before you start to analyse the DC stability problem.4 e4 X* E. }7 U. i. m. Z" r5 Q

3 O' m) y# G9 i# d) qThe hard thing is the DC is not well taught in any text book. As someone mentioned before, Taylor's book has  charpter on this issue. This charpter is all correct and well written. However, it has same issue as above. The readers need good back ground to understand it. It is too brief and contains too much things.& C! _; ]# B, p1 n- \/ o
0 i+ B) Q# H- D
Spent 45 minutes, Hope  版主  加精华, heheh...

评分

参与人数 1威望 +10 金币 +8 +50 收起 理由
norika + 10 + 8 + 50 回帖无法加精,呵呵,谢谢张老师了

查看全部评分

"真诚赞赏,手留余香"
还没有人打赏,支持一下
帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】
  • TA的每日心情
    开心
    2016-10-18 19:12
  • 签到天数: 5 天

    连续签到: 1 天

    [LV.2]偶尔看看I

    累计签到:5 天
    连续签到:1 天
    发表于 2009-11-18 17:45:13 | 显示全部楼层
    我觉得PSS/E好一些
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-11-18 18:39:46 | 显示全部楼层
    yizhangsjtu介绍的很清楚啊,看来要搞HVDC的研究,深厚的专业背景是必须的,否则只能是了解。好像我们教授也说过,在高压输电领域任何东西只要用在直流上,绝缘性质和电流电压特性都变掉了,所以对高压元件的研究多于系统。
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-11-18 20:27:37 | 显示全部楼层
    帮你顶一下,不是很清楚!!!!
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-11-19 12:20:15 | 显示全部楼层
    I agree my comments is not clear enough. That is a long story, which I cannot explain in a small article. Actually there is no book can tell you the HVDC very clear. That's why not many people know that. I am sorry for this.
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-11-19 21:10:28 | 显示全部楼层
    除理论方面的  电力电子应用也非常广泛
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-11-25 21:55:46 | 显示全部楼层
    pscad是研究电磁暂态仿真的,稳定方面的用的很少。这个看来得自己搭模型才可以,和楼主一起探讨
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-12-7 10:20:38 | 显示全部楼层
    直流电压的研究,主要侧重于换流母线上的电压稳定性。换流母线电压的稳定直接决定了直流系统是否能稳定运行。PSSE不错
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-12-8 16:17:22 | 显示全部楼层
    好强大啊  我本来也有这方面的打算,但听版主这么一说似乎还这有点悬乎在里面的
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】

    该用户从未签到

    尚未签到

    发表于 2009-12-8 23:50:44 | 显示全部楼层
    应该之前的软件都能用的
    "真诚赞赏,手留余香"
    还没有人打赏,支持一下
    帖文化:【文明发帖 和谐互动】 社区精神:【创新、交流、互助、共享】
    您需要登录后才可以回帖 登录 | 立即加入

    本版积分规则

    招聘斑竹

    小黑屋|手机版|APP下载(beta)|Archiver|电力研学网 ( 赣ICP备12000811号-1|赣公网安备36040302000210号 )|网站地图

    GMT+8, 2024-5-6 00:54

    Powered by Discuz! X3.5 Licensed

    © 2001-2024 Discuz! Team.

    快速回复 返回顶部 返回列表